so proof tech citation is a quotation offered with very little cop text, and in bulb lick cal discussions they're used to prove what god is thinking in our discussions of the founders, once you collectivize the founders, opposite you create the founders, the hive mind, then you can apply any sentence that any one of them ever spoke as if it were the opinion of the entire collective, and that is what happened. that is what a lot of people today do, and they're making an enormous amount of money doing it. they take -- david barton, the original intend the one i focus on the most here, and in that book you have thousands of quotations by hundreds of people listed as founding fathers, about half of whom were not supporters of the constitution. samuel adams and john hancock and patrick henry and george mason, people who were antifederalist leaders, who are then taken to be something like a collective mentality and then used to interpret the constitution that most of them didn't support. >> host: what does the founder's sign have to say about religion? what is used to argue in contemporary deba